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Topic: Difficulty of a SuDoku position |
schwa
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Forum: General discussion Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:53 pm Subject: Difficulty of a SuDoku position |
I think the product, rather than the sum, might be a better measure.
Or take the log of the product, if you like.
What do you think of that idea?
--Joshua |
Topic: Help....... |
schwa
Replies: 4
Views: 44808
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Forum: Other puzzles Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:02 pm Subject: Help....... |
Looking at that column 8, the topmost thing can only be 6 or 9. Also in row 7, that spot can only be 6 or 9. Therefore, among those two spots, the 6 and the 9 get used up: 6 and 9 must be the 1st an ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:10 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
For the difficulty:
Entropy would be the log of the product of the number of possibilities for each square. That would be a fine measure. The question is, when to measure it? Certainly you should ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:34 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
Both programs, yours and my, are solving what can be solved without using a "look ahead" technique (I am almost sure).
I have a feeling that there are still more ideas out there of how to analyze th ... |
Topic: Help....... |
schwa
Replies: 4
Views: 44808
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Forum: Other puzzles Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:55 pm Subject: Help....... |
After crossing off the "obvious" possibilities (that is, eliminating from the row and column all the numbers that are already used) you should find that in that -x- spot you have only 3 and 9 as optio ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:15 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
Here an additional one to compare our programs:
020000000 000600003 074080000 000003002 080040010 600500000 000010780 500009000 000000040
For this one it has found "only" 8 numbers. We can exchange ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:07 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
For the first one, my program gives
17 4 3 9 8 67 2 5 167 6 789 1789 4 2 5 138 38 178 2 578 578 37 36 1 68 9 4 9 568 2568 13 13 ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:37 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
Indeed, there was a (in hindsight obvious!) bug in the "box rule".
Now, with the two rules I mentioned in the previous post, there's not a sudoku I've found that can't be solved. In fact, I've only ... |
Topic: Program doesn't solve it. |
schwa
Replies: 25
Views: 178119
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Forum: Daily Sudoku puzzles Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:22 pm Subject: Program doesn't solve it. |
Thanks Steve!
I thought I had coded that rule as my rule 2: I call it the "box rule", that if a row intersects a box, and a certain digit only appears as a possibility in the intersection but nowhere ... |
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