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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: Sep 10 VH |   |  
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				| XY-Wing 26-5 pivoted in r2c3; r89c2<>5; stte. 	  | Code: |  	  | +-------------+-----------+--------------+
 | 4   9   3   | 2   6   1 | 5    7   8   |
 | 7   8   #26  | 9   5   4 | 236  236 1   |
 | 56  *25  1   | 8   7   3 | 2469 26  469 |
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 | 2   7   4   | 1   39  5 | 369  8   369 |
 | 35  6   59  | 7   8   2 | 349  1   349 |
 | 38  1   89  | 34  349 6 | 7    5   2   |
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 | 368 234 268 | 5   34  9 | 1    236 7   |
 | 1   34-5 *56  | 346 2   7 | 8    9   356 |
 | 9   23-5 7   | 36  1   8 | 236  4   356 |
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		| hughwill 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject: Sep 10 VH |   |  
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				| After basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 4  9   3   | 2   6   1 | 5   7   8   |
 | 7  8   26  | 9   5   4 | 236 236 1   |
 | 56 25  1   | 8   7   3 | 49  26  49  |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 2  7   4   | 1   39  5 | 369 8   369 |
 | 35 6   59  | 7   8   2 | 349 1   349 |
 | 38 1   89  | 34  349 6 | 7   5   2   |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 68 234 268 | 5   34  9 | 1   236 7   |
 | 1  345 56  | 346 2   7 | 8   9   356 |
 | 9  235 7   | 36  1   8 | 236 4   356 |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Also a 56 w-wing in c13 makes r7c1=8 which (in the end!) sets the puzzle.
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		| dongrave 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 11:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I had hughwill's starting position after the basics at which point I found the (almost) standard advanced move UR (type 2) of 49's in r35c79 which eliminates the 3 from r5c1 and solves it. |  | 
	
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		| norwag 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Sep 10 VH |   |  
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				|  	  | hughwill wrote: |  	  | After basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 4  9   3   | 2   6   1 | 5   7   8   |
 | 7  8   26  | 9   5   4 | 236 236 1   |
 | 56 25  1   | 8   7   3 | 49  26  49  |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 2  7   4   | 1   39  5 | 369 8   369 |
 | 35 6   59  | 7   8   2 | 349 1   349 |
 | 38 1   89  | 34  349 6 | 7   5   2   |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 68 234 268 | 5   34  9 | 1   236 7   |
 | 1  345 56  | 346 2   7 | 8   9   356 |
 | 9  235 7   | 36  1   8 | 236 4   356 |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Also a 56 w-wing in c13 makes r7c1=8 which (in the end!) sets the puzzle.
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 Please say this another way! I get to this point. I don't know what c13 refers to. Nor do I understand r7c1 which to me looks like it is already 1. Rows go down, columns across?? Help...
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		| norwag 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Sep 10 VH |   |  
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				|  	  | norwag wrote: |  	  |  	  | hughwill wrote: |  	  | After basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 4  9   3   | 2   6   1 | 5   7   8   |
 | 7  8   26  | 9   5   4 | 236 236 1   |
 | 56 25  1   | 8   7   3 | 49  26  49  |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 2  7   4   | 1   39  5 | 369 8   369 |
 | 35 6   59  | 7   8   2 | 349 1   349 |
 | 38 1   89  | 34  349 6 | 7   5   2   |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 68 234 268 | 5   34  9 | 1   236 7   |
 | 1  345 56  | 346 2   7 | 8   9   356 |
 | 9  235 7   | 36  1   8 | 236 4   356 |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Also a 56 w-wing in c13 makes r7c1=8 which (in the end!) sets the puzzle.
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 Please say this another way! I get to this point. I don't know what c13 refers to. Nor do I understand r7c1 which to me looks like it is already 1. Rows go down, columns across?? Help...
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 OK wait. r7c1 is actually sitting at 68. So how do you know it must be 8? Something to do with the 56 w-wing? And c13 is that the 56 in r3c1?
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		| hughwill 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Re: Sep 10 VH |   |  
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				|  	  | norwag wrote: |  	  |  	  | norwag wrote: |  	  |  	  | hughwill wrote: |  	  | After basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 4  9   3   | 2   6   1 | 5   7   8   |
 | 7  8   26  | 9   5   4 | 236 236 1   |
 | 56 25  1   | 8   7   3 | 49  26  49  |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 2  7   4   | 1   39  5 | 369 8   369 |
 | 35 6   59  | 7   8   2 | 349 1   349 |
 | 38 1   89  | 34  349 6 | 7   5   2   |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 | 68 234 268 | 5   34  9 | 1   236 7   |
 | 1  345 56  | 346 2   7 | 8   9   356 |
 | 9  235 7   | 36  1   8 | 236 4   356 |
 +------------+-----------+-------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Also a 56 w-wing in c13 makes r7c1=8 which (in the end!) sets the puzzle.
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 Please say this another way! I get to this point. I don't know what c13 refers to. Nor do I understand r7c1 which to me looks like it is already 1. Rows go down, columns across?? Help...
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 OK wait. r7c1 is actually sitting at 68. So how do you know it must be 8? Something to do with the 56 w-wing? And c13 is that the 56 in r3c1?
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 Sorry I didn't see this for so long. The two 56s in the W wing are in columns 1 and 3
 (c13). On row 5 there are only two 5s at c1 and c3. If r3c1=5 then r5c1<>5.
 That means r5c3 is 5 and r8c3=6. The only other possibility for r3c1 is
 that it equals 6. So either possibility means that r7c1<>6 so must =8.
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