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		| Earl 
 
 
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 Location: Victoria, KS
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Stuck Again |   |  
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				| I can solve this with a forcing chain to a contradiction, which is almost trial and error.  Anyone see a "logical" step? 
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 Earl
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-------+------------+
 | 16 9  168  | 3 5 7 | 68   2  4  |
 | 4  3  2    | 1 8 6 | 9    7  5  |
 | 5  67 78   | 9 4 2 | 38   36 1  |
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 | 3  8  16   | 5 7 4 | 16   9  2  |
 | 17 56 1457 | 8 2 9 | 1347 36 37 |
 | 9  2  47   | 6 1 3 | 47   5  8  |
 +------------+-------+------------+
 | 2  57 9    | 4 3 8 | 57   1  6  |
 | 8  1  3    | 7 6 5 | 2    4  9  |
 | 67 4  567  | 2 9 1 | 357  8  37 |
 +------------+-------+------------+
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
 Joined: 12 Feb 2006
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 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Stuck Again |   |  
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				|  	  | Earl wrote: |  	  | I can solve this with a forcing chain to a contradiction, which is almost trial and error.  Anyone see a "logical" step? 
 Thanks
 
 Earl
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------+-------+------------+
 | 16 9  168  | 3 5 7 | 68   2  4  |
 | 4  3  2    | 1 8 6 | 9    7  5  |
 | 5  67 78   | 9 4 2 | 38   36 1  |
 +------------+-------+------------+
 | 3  8  16   | 5 7 4 | 16   9  2  |
 | 17 56 1457 | 8 2 9 | 1347 36 37 |
 | 9  2  47   | 6 1 3 | 47   5  8  |
 +------------+-------+------------+
 | 2  57 9    | 4 3 8 | 57   1  6  |
 | 8  1  3    | 7 6 5 | 2    4  9  |
 | 67 4  567  | 2 9 1 | 357  8  37 |
 +------------+-------+------------+
 
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 There is a Type 4 rectangle on 47 in boxes 4 and 6 which I don't know if it does any good. But there's an XY-Wing 17-16-67 which will accomplish something, but I don't know if it breaks the puzzle.
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		| Asellus 
 
 
 Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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 Location: Sonoma County, CA, USA
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There is a W-Wing on 16 in Boxes 1 and 4. 
 Or, there is an XY-Chain with pincers at R4C7 and R5C1 that eliminates <1> from R5C7.
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		| TKiel 
 
 
 Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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 Location: Kalamazoo, MI
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| There's also an X-wing/swordfish that removes >7> from r9c3, after which the XY-wing that Marty mentioned solves that same cell. |  | 
	
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
 Joined: 03 May 2007
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				|  Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Picking up on Tracy's x-wing on 7's that removes the 7 from r9c3 (and a bunch of other 7's) This leaves a Y wing at r3c2 r7c2 r9c3 , (67-57-56) 
 ............which knocks out the 6 at r1c3.
 
 Another Y wing straight afterwards at r1c37 and r4c3 chops out yet another 6 and the puzzle is toast.
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