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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: June 27, Very Hard |   |  
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				| From my perspective, this was the most enjoyable one I've seen, because it afforded the opportunity to use a few different techniques. There was a block interaction, a Type 4 rectangle and an X-Wing. Finally, coloring on "2" broke the puzzle open. 
 Thanks Sam, hope to see more like this one.
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		| marvwriter 
 
 
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 Location: Houston, Texas
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:47 pm    Post subject: June 27 very hard |   |  
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				| I agree. It was very enjoyable and a real workout for the little gray cells. I used the block interaction, hidden pairs and 3 x-wings to solve it. (One of the x-wings I used was on the "2s.") |  | 
	
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		| frankp329 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| This is far as I got on this one. Please help I am new at this - - 7        - - -         - - -
 4 9 6       - - 8        - - 3
 - - 1       9 - -        - - 6
 - 4 3       - - 2       6 8 -
 6 1 -       8 - 4      2 3 7
 - 2 8      3 - -       5 - -
 1 - -       - - 3       4 - -
 8 3 -      1 - -       9 7 2
 - - -        - - -       3 - -
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		| gigi 
 
 
 Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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 Location: Central Texas
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The only possible positions for 6 in boxes 5 and 8 is in cols 5 and 6 which forces a 6 in box 1 at row 1, col 4.   That should get you going again!  Good luck |  | 
	
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		| gigi 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That should be.... it forces a 6 in Box 2 (not box 1) row 1, col 4 |  | 
	
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		| David 
 
 
 Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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 Location: Bedford, UK
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ?? I didn't see any X wing or UR, it just seemed to fall out (albeit slowly) from the normal techniques and logic. Did anyone else use the 'advanced' techniques ? |  | 
	
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		| ravel 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hm, what gigi described can be looked at using either box/box interaction or x-wing. |  | 
	
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		| Xantara 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hi all, 
 I had trouble cracking this one.  So I checked out your discussion.
 I had never used the x-wing solving technique.  I studied your explanations and read some things out on the web as well.  Very interesting.
 
 I understood what I read okay and pored over some good examples.
 But I couldn't find any place in the puzzle to apply the x-wing -- at least not at the juncture where I stalled out.
 
 Because I was studying the numbers so long looking for x-wing patterns, I stumbled over traditional clues.  And in the end, that's how I solved the puzzle.
 
 So, in answer to David's query, no, I didn't use any advanced techniques either, but I arrived at the solution.  Hurrah!
 
 Xantara
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