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		| Earl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Aug 26 VH |   |  
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				| I found a compact xy-wing which eliminated the <8> at R3C6 and the puzzle opened up. 
 Earl
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		| sdq_pete 
 
 
 Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:07 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +------------------+-------------+----------+
 | 149   6    8     | 49   24 5   | 7   3 12 |
 | 47    2    3     | 1    6  47  | 8   5 9  |
 | 179   19   5     | 3789 38 289 | 12  4 6  |
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 | 126   7    126   | 38   5  18  | 136 9 4  |
 | 59    459  49    | 2    13 6   | 13  7 8  |
 | 8     3    16    | 47   9  47  | 156 2 15 |
 +------------------+-------------+----------+
 | 3     45   24    | 458  18 128 | 9   6 7  |
 | 12569 1459 12469 | 459  7  3   | 245 8 25 |
 | 259   8    7     | 6    24 29  | 245 1 3  |
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
 
 Me too!
 
 Peter
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		| George Woods 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: yes indeed |   |  
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				| I did it this way, but noticed that getting a 2 at r7c3 relied on "factorising" col 6, the 2 aforementioned 2 falls out immediately by using the corresponding XY wing that removes the 8 from r7c4! |  | 
	
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:56 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm not sure I found the same thing - but I had to use a 13, 18, 38 set twice (both pivots on 13) - and then still needed a skyscraper on 9s (R19). 
 Probably missed an easy step.
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		| Johan 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The same xy-wing with pivot in R5C5, which results in a naked [129] triple in R3, and opens the puzzle. |  | 
	
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| The XY-Wing on 13-18-38 solved it for me. Prior to that I played a Finned X-Wing which didn't matter, but I saw that move first. |  | 
	
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		| sdq_pete 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Funny thing is, there are two 13-18-38 XY wings, as cgordon pointed out, both the same pivot, though I only used the 'top' one and don't recall requiring any 'advanced' techniques after that. 
 Peter
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| sdq_pete: 
 Yeah you are right - only one xy needed  38(R3)-18(R4)-13(R5)pivot.
 After that nothing advanced - though I found it hard to spot the eliminations. Sudokued out maybe.
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