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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:50 am    Post subject: March 23 vh |   |  
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				| A two+ coffee puzzle. 
 Hint: Two steps: x-wing (3) cols 2,7 opens an xy-wing 26-16-12 col 7 / box 9
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes. Same solution for me - but it took me more than two coffees - almost into Miller time.  A veritable challenge! |  | 
	
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A slightly convoluted XY-Chain exposed a puzzle-finishing XY-Wing. |  | 
	
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		| Clement 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Daily Sudoku: Mon 23-Mar-2009 VH |   |  
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				| XY-Wing 126 with Pivot {16}r7c7 solves the puzzle. |  | 
	
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | cgordon wrote: |  	  | took me more than two coffees - almost into Miller time.  ... | 
 
 
  my computer says time of post 2pm UTC or roughly 9am EST   
 Now that makes me wonder about your current timezone ... Sláinte! 干杯 (gan bei) !
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		| nataraj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | nataraj wrote: |  	  |  	  | cgordon wrote: |  	  | took me more than two coffees - almost into Miller time.  ... | 
 
 
  my computer says time of post 2pm UTC or roughly 9am EST   
 Now that makes me wonder about your current timezone ... Sláinte! Prost! לְחַיִּים ! 干杯 (gan bei) !
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Now that makes me wonder about your current timezone ... Sláinte! Prost! | 
 
 I might start early but I always stop after two   (2:30 at the latest.)
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		| Julie Dachs 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm assuming that you have to eliminate the 3 in r8c9 in order to set up the the 126 xy-wing that solves the puzzle. But how do you do that? What am I missing? |  | 
	
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+----------------+----------------+ | 147  57   9    | 3    8    6    | 15   2    14   |
 | 134  6    2    | 5    14   7    | 8    9    134  |
 | 1348 35   348  | 14   9    2    | 135  6    7    |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 5    2    7    | 6    3    1    | 9    4    8    |
 | 38   9    38   | 7    5    4    | 26   1    26   |
 | 6    4    1    | 8    2    9    | 7    3    5    |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
 | 2    8    45   | 14   67   3    | 16   57   9    |
 | 347  37   6    | 9    14   5    | 123  8    123  |
 | 9    1    35   | 2    67   8    | 4    57   36   |
 +----------------+----------------+----------------+
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 I do not see an XY-wing.  There is a type-3 UR taking out <1> in R3C7 (which you don't need), and there is an X-wing on <3>.
 
 After the X-wing, there is an XY-wing 1-26.
 
 Keith
 
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		| Julie Dachs 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:02 am    Post subject: 3/23 Very hard |   |  
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				| Thanks Keith, 
 The x-wing on 3 did the trick!
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		| crunched 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I had the same solution as Keith, et al. But keith had more numbers removed from basics. I did not get as many "basic" numbers removed. By the way, there is a 3-5-7 xyz wing in boxes 4 & 7.
 Oh, now I see it. A box line reduction on 5 in c3/box 7
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +---------------+-----------+------------+
 | 1457  57 9    | 3  8    6 | 15  2  14  |
 | 134   6  2    | 5  14   7 | 8   9  134 |
 | 13458 35 3458 | 14 9    2 | 135 6  7   |
 +---------------+-----------+------------+
 | 57    2  57   | 6  3    1 | 9   4  8   |
 | 38    9  38   | 7  5    4 | 26  1  26  |
 | 6     4  1    | 8  2    9 | 7   3  5   |
 +---------------+-----------+------------+
 | 2     8  457  | 14 1467 3 | 16  57 169 |
 | 347   37 6    | 9  147  5 | 123 8  123 |
 | 9     1  357  | 2  67   8 | 4   57 36  |
 +---------------+-----------+------------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:13 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | .------------------.------------------.------------------. | 147  *57    9    | 3     8     6    |*15    2     14   |
 | 134   6     2    | 5     14    7    | 8     9     134  |
 | 1348  35    348  | 14    9     2    | 135   6     7    |
 :------------------+------------------+------------------:
 | 5     2     7    | 6     3     1    | 9     4     8    |
 | 38    9     38   | 7     5     4    | 26    1     26   |
 | 6     4     1    | 8     2     9    | 7     3     5    |
 :------------------+------------------+------------------:
 | 2     8     45   | 14    67    3    |*16    57    9    |
 | 347  *37    6    | 9     14    5    |12-3   8     123  |
 | 9     1     35   | 2     67    8    | 4     57   *36   |
 '------------------'------------------'------------------'
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 xy-chain does it in one.
 starting in r8c2 ...
 37-75-51-16-63
 removes 3 from r8c7
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | storm_norm wrote: |  	  |  	  | Code: |  	  | .------------------.------------------.------------------. | 147  *57    9    | 3     8     6    |*15    2     14   |
 | 134   6     2    | 5     14    7    | 8     9     134  |
 | 1348  35    348  | 14    9     2    | 135   6     7    |
 :------------------+------------------+------------------:
 | 5     2     7    | 6     3     1    | 9     4     8    |
 | 38    9     38   | 7     5     4    | 26    1     26   |
 | 6     4     1    | 8     2     9    | 7     3     5    |
 :------------------+------------------+------------------:
 | 2     8     45   | 14    67    3    |*16    57    9    |
 | 347  *37    6    | 9     14    5    |12-3   8     123  |
 | 9     1     35   | 2     67    8    | 4     57   *36   |
 '------------------'------------------'------------------'
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 xy-chain does it in one.
 starting in r8c2 ...
 37-75-51-16-63
 removes 3 from r8c7
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 I found the same xy-chain. It also deletes <3> from r8c9.
 
 Ted
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