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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Free Press Thursday October 29, 2009 | 
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				An unexpected VH: 	  | Code: | 	 		  Puzzle: FP102909
 
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| . . 7 | . 6 . | . . . | 
 
| 6 . . | 5 . . | . . . | 
 
| . 1 . | 8 4 7 | . 2 . | 
 
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| 9 . . | . . . | . . 4 | 
 
| . 2 6 | . . . | . 5 . | 
 
| 5 . . | . . . | . . 9 | 
 
+-------+-------+-------+
 
| . 8 . | 7 2 1 | . 9 . | 
 
| . . . | . 3 6 | . . 7 | 
 
| . . . | . 8 . | 3 . . | 
 
+-------+-------+-------+ | 	  Keith | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Interesting one. A UR was apparent before most of the pencil marks were made. A W-Wing with pincer transport was followed by an unhelpful XYZ-Wing. Then another W-Wing, followed by a DP in boxes 789 finished it off. | 
			 
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		  +-----------------+---------------+---------------------+
 
| (28)  459  7    | (23)  6  239  | 14589  148-3  18-3  |
 
| 6     49   28   | 5     1  29-3 | 489    7      (38)  |
 
| 3     1    59   | 8     4  7    | 569    2      56    |
 
+-----------------+---------------+---------------------+
 
| 9     7    18   | 1236  5  238  | 128    1368   4     |
 
| 1(8)  2    6    | 13    9  4    | 7      5      13(8) |
 
| 5     3    4    | 126   7  28   | 128    168    9     |
 
+-----------------+---------------+---------------------+
 
| 4     8    3    | 7     2  1    | 56     9      56    |
 
| 12    59   1259 | 49    3  6    | 148    148    7     |
 
| 7     6    19   | 49    8  5    | 3      14     2     |
 
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(3=8)r2c9 - (8)r5c9 = (8)r5c1 - (8=2)r1c1 - (2=3)r1c4; r1c89 and r2c6 <> 3 | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				A grouped fin!  (If you'll allow this one-stepper!)
 
 
After basics:
 
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| 28@   459   7     | 23    6     239   |14589# 1348# 138@  | 
 
| 6     49    28    | 5     1     239   | 489   7     3-8   | 
 
| 3     1     59    | 8     4     7     | 569   2     56    | 
 
+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 
| 9     7     18    | 1236  5     238   | 128   1368  4     | 
 
| 18@   2     6     | 13    9     4     | 7     5     138@  | 
 
| 5     3     4     | 126   7     28    | 128   168   9     | 
 
+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 
| 4     8     3     | 7     2     1     | 56    9     56    | 
 
| 12    59    1259  | 49    3     6     | 148   148   7     | 
 
| 7     6     19    | 49    8     5     | 3     14    2     | 
 
+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+ | 	  
 
Either the X-wing @ on 8 is true, or one of the cells marked # is true, equal to 8.  Either way, R2C9 is not 8, and the puzzle is solved.    
 
 
Keith
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		storm_norm
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| nice one keith | 
			 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		  | nice one keith | 	  
 
Norm, thank you!
 
 
Actually, I first found it as a regular finned X-wing after the UR that Marty noted, but I went back for another look.
 
 
I suppose it's also a grouped skyscraper?
 
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | keith wrote: | 	 		  A grouped fin!  (If you'll allow this one-stepper!)
 
 
After basics:
 
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| 28@   459   7     | 23    6     239   |14589# 1348# 138@  | 
 
| 6     49    28    | 5     1     239   | 489   7     3-8   | 
 
| 3     1     59    | 8     4     7     | 569   2     56    | 
 
+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 
| 9     7     18    | 1236  5     238   | 128   1368  4     | 
 
| 18@   2     6     | 13    9     4     | 7     5     138@  | 
 
| 5     3     4     | 126   7     28    | 128   168   9     | 
 
+-------------------+-------------------+-------------------+
 
| 4     8     3     | 7     2     1     | 56    9     56    | 
 
| 12    59    1259  | 49    3     6     | 148   148   7     | 
 
| 7     6     19    | 49    8     5     | 3     14    2     | 
 
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Either the X-wing @ on 8 is true, or one of the cells marked @ is true, equal to 8.  Either way, R2C9 is not 8, and the puzzle is solved.    
 
 
Keith | 	  
 
 
I love those types of moves! Good show ....
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | A grouped fin! (If you'll allow this one-stepper!)  | 	  
 
Never heard that term. When I first learned the Finned X-Wing I was told it could have two fins, so that's how I've always thought of them, still a Finned X-Wing, but with two fins.
 
 
I miss a lot of these types of solutions because--for reasons unknown--I hate looking for X-Wings and Skyscrapers, thus I look for them as a last resort after I've exhausted my too-small arsenal. | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				While looking for a xy-wing, I found this chain that is similar to the one by Norm.
 
 
(3=8)r2c9 - (8=2)r2c3 - (2=8)r1c1 - (8=1)r5c1 - (1=3)r5c4; r5c9<>3
 
 
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		keith
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				My previous post has been corrected to read:
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Either the X-wing @ on 8 is true, or one of the cells marked # is true | 	  
 
 
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