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		| Earl 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:34 pm    Post subject: May 22 DB |   |  
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				| The May 22 DB starts off a bit challenging, but then only one "big" step after basics. 
 A solution:  skyscraper 4
 
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  	  | Code: |  	  | +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 6 . | . . 9 | 8 . . |
 | 3 . . | . . . | . . . |
 | . 2 8 | 1 . 3 | . 6 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . . . | 2 . . | . 9 4 |
 | . 1 . | . . . | . 2 . |
 | 4 7 . | . . 5 | . . . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 | . 3 . | 6 . 8 | 1 7 . |
 | . . . | . . . | . . 9 |
 | . . 5 | 7 . . | . 4 . |
 +-------+-------+-------+
 
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 Play this puzzle online at the Daily Sudoku site
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I don't think I've ever seen meaner basics. Was that a "quintuplet" in C7, I saw?   I ended up trying colouring on <4> and found an impossible situation with two of the same colours in C5 - so I assumed these were wrong and chose the other colour. Is there a name for that? Anyway it worked. 
 Definitely one of the best.
 
 Craig
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Was that a "quintuplet" in C7, I saw? | 
 Yes indeed, but the cognoscenti refers to them as "quints."
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Yes indeed, but the cognoscenti refers to them as "quints." | 
 I thought Quint was that boat pilot in Jaws.
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Marty you are clearly not a good Italian Boy! 
 Cognoscente "refers"
 Cognoscenti "refer" because the cognoscenti are plural.
 
 
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:02 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | cgordon wrote: |  	  | I don't think I've ever seen meaner basics. Was that a "quintuplet" in C7, I saw?   I ended up trying colouring on <4> and found an impossible situation with two of the same colours in C5 - so I assumed these were wrong and chose the other colour. Is there a name for that? Anyway it worked. 
 Definitely one of the best.
 
 Craig
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 Hi Craig,
 
 Your technique found a truth contradiction:In colouring if two of the same colour end up in the same stack/band/house they must be false.
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		| cgordon 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Your technique found a truth contradiction:In colouring if two of the same colour end up in the same stack/band/house they must be false. | 
 I've since seen it referred to as a Color Wrap (or Colour Wrap if you're bilingual).
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		| Mogulmeister 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| God bless the Canadians for being able to spell!   
 Ronk was speculating on similar colouring related terminology - I've been out of the swing of all that nomenclature stuff for the last couple of years so I haven't sorted out my "wraps" and "traps" yet - but to be honest I see them all as colouring.
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